Discussion with BSO Split from how are you currently feeling

[56008]

Sorry, want to throw in my 2 cents here:

I think that mod edits have a higher potential for being disruptive than deletion. A deleted post can be remade as long as the issue with it is edited out, but what is someone able to do with an edited post?

Really?  One of the big issues with simply deleting posts is that we can't learn from them.  Why was it deleted?  Who's to say, there's no mod edit to explain it to me!  I'm not saying that posts should NEVER be deleted, but there's plenty of merit with editing them instead.

[BSO]

Sorry, want to throw in my 2 cents here:

I think that mod edits have a higher potential for being disruptive than deletion. A deleted post can be remade as long as the issue with it is edited out, but what is someone able to do with an edited post?

Really?  One of the big issues with simply deleting posts is that we can't learn from them.  Why was it deleted?  Who's to say, there's no mod edit to explain it to me!  I'm not saying that posts should NEVER be deleted, but there's plenty of merit with editing them instead.

Which would be why then that happens it would come with an e-mail now. This is one of the main reasons I wanted the e-mail, since due to a lack of a PM system, it's the only alternative to getting information to people with a deletion.

[56008]

Which would be why then that happens it would come with an e-mail now. This is one of the main reasons I wanted the e-mail, since due to a lack of a PM system, it's the only alternative to getting information to people with a deletion.

What on earth are you talking about?  Are you honestly saying that we get emails for every post that gets deleted?  Because you and I know that is not the case.  The only happen when a warning is dished out, and by then the damage is already done.

[BSO]

I'm sure.



Four. Sending someone an e-mail in the hopes that they might be on and will see it in those 10 minutes will almost always be a pointless wait. I'm also not a fan of ignoring clear violations of the rules.



I answered several of your questions, but I don't care for leading ones.



If you'd like to know about my stance on how to moderate, then it's as simple as that I'll deal with issues that violate the rules, and will do nothing to posts that don't. This is a fairly simple issue with few exceptions, such as removal by request of the poster.



Yes, flash is not perfectly secured in every possible way, neither is about almost everything else on the internet. I'm not going to avoid being able to use a large number of things on it just because I'm not able to prevent every possibility. I drive a car, I'm pretty sure I'm willing to take the risk of using flash.



Examples of what, people?

[BSO]

Which would be why then that happens it would come with an e-mail now. This is one of the main reasons I wanted the e-mail, since due to a lack of a PM system, it's the only alternative to getting information to people with a deletion.

What on earth are you talking about?  Are you honestly saying that we get emails for every post that gets deleted?  Because you and I know that is not the case.  The only happen when a warning is dished out, and by then the damage is already done.

If not an e-mail then it should be some method of making people aware of the reason. You're right however, this has not always been the case. I'm working on making sure that it is.

[56008]

What on earth are you talking about?  Are you honestly saying that we get emails for every post that gets deleted?  Because you and I know that is not the case.  The only happen when a warning is dished out, and by then the damage is already done.

If not an e-mail then it should be some method of making people aware of the reason. You're right however, this has not always been the case. I'm working on making sure that it is.

Thank you for clarifying that.  For a second there, I thought you were spewing some obvious BS to all of us.

[BSO]

What on earth are you talking about?  Are you honestly saying that we get emails for every post that gets deleted?  Because you and I know that is not the case.  The only happen when a warning is dished out, and by then the damage is already done.

If not an e-mail then it should be some method of making people aware of the reason. You're right however, this has not always been the case. I'm working on making sure that it is.

Thank you for clarifying that.  For a second there, I thought you were spewing some obvious BS to all of us.

Like I've said, the system isn't perfect, but we're working on it. It would be infinitely easier with a PM system, but this is the situation we're in for the time being. The goal is of course to make people aware of why something was removed when needed, which is also why I think edits aren't as good. There's no guarantee that someone will go back into a thread to see an edit, but with their e-mail account, the chance is much higher.

[56008]

Like I've said, the system isn't perfect, but we're working on it. It would be infinitely easier with a PM system, but this is the situation we're in for the time being. The goal is of course to make people aware of why something was removed when needed, which is also why I think edits aren't as good. There's no guarantee that someone will go back into a thread to see an edit, but with their e-mail account, the chance is much higher.

Which is good and all but the email route is obviously not being done at the moment and since there's no sign of a PM system coming anytime soon, shouldn't SOMETHING be done?  I'd rather have a mod edit that isn't guaranteed to read by said poster, than not being informed at all.



And as for the system not being perfect?  No kidding!  Seriously though, moderating a forum is never perfect since it's practically impossible to find that perfect balance of being strict or lenient with the moderation.  And things did not help that we have a pretty rowdy bunch of people in the Mighty No. 9 forums.  However, let's be honest here: the ultimate reason why the system isn't "perfect" is that we have a very inexperienced person as our Community Manager that was assigned to moderate a very poorly designed forum.

[BSO]

Like I've said, the system isn't perfect, but we're working on it. It would be infinitely easier with a PM system, but this is the situation we're in for the time being. The goal is of course to make people aware of why something was removed when needed, which is also why I think edits aren't as good. There's no guarantee that someone will go back into a thread to see an edit, but with their e-mail account, the chance is much higher.

Which is good and all but the email route is obviously not being done at the moment and since there's no sign of a PM system coming anytime soon, shouldn't SOMETHING be done?  I'd rather have a mod edit that isn't guaranteed to read by said poster, than not being informed at all.



And as for the system not being perfect?  No kidding!  Seriously though, moderating a forum is never perfect since it's practically impossible to find that perfect balance of being strict or lenient with the moderation.  And things did not help that we have a pretty rowdy bunch of people in the Mighty No. 9 forums.  However, let's be honest here: the ultimate reason why the system isn't "perfect" is that we have a very inexperienced person as our Community Manager that was assigned to moderate a very poorly designed forum.

Judgement is something that comes with experience. You can't force experience to come faster though. I made plenty of mistakes when I was first starting out, and it took a long time for me to feel fully confident in what I was doing. The difference then was that I had other people that had that experience already, helping me out. That's part of what I'm trying to do there now.

[Quattro Bajeena]

Like I've said, the system isn't perfect, but we're working on it. It would be infinitely easier with a PM system, but this is the situation we're in for the time being. The goal is of course to make people aware of why something was removed when needed, which is also why I think edits aren't as good. There's no guarantee that someone will go back into a thread to see an edit, but with their e-mail account, the chance is much higher.

Which is good and all but the email route is obviously not being done at the moment and since there's no sign of a PM system coming anytime soon, shouldn't SOMETHING be done?  I'd rather have a mod edit that isn't guaranteed to read by said poster, than not being informed at all.



And as for the system not being perfect?  No kidding!  Seriously though, moderating a forum is never perfect since it's practically impossible to find that perfect balance of being strict or lenient with the moderation.  And things did not help that we have a pretty rowdy bunch of people in the Mighty No. 9 forums.  However, let's be honest here: the ultimate reason why the system isn't "perfect" is that we have a very inexperienced person as our Community Manager that was assigned to moderate a very poorly designed forum.

problem is when you have a garbage ruleset, a admin with brain problems and a moderation staff filled with similar cases



and we have an apathetic retard thinking he can change the violently retarded hugbox that is dina and her friends, the thing is having worked for years as a moderator across various sites and servers apathy ad blindly following the rules laid out is something you DO NOT want to do, especially when the powers that be are cunts and want to perpetuate their hugbox. I've bailed on a few communities because I didn't see eye to eye with how they handled things