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[NotSpiderBread]

>Be from backer's forum

>Not using a multi

>2014



I sincerely wish you guys would not do that

I don't know what you're talking about good sir. As you can plainly see I am NotSpiderBread.

Shut up Dina.

I couldn't possibly be Dina. As you can plainly see, I'm responding directly to your statement. That should be proof enough.

[mightyno67277p]

xD That image is epic just saying.

The source of where the image is propagated is even more fun:

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I know MechaGS will laugh at it. I know I did.

I couldn't possibly be Dina. As you can plainly see, I'm responding directly to your statement. That should be proof enough.

LOL

[DunnoBro]

I couldn't possibly be Dina. As you can plainly see, I'm responding directly to your statement. That should be proof enough.

Well you got me there.



Also no, I'm not suggesting alts on the becker forum. I chose my words poorly, i should have said "alternate name" like mine, instead of multi.

[NotSpiderBread]

I couldn't possibly be Dina. As you can plainly see, I'm responding directly to your statement. That should be proof enough.

Well you got me there.



Also no, I'm not suggesting alts on the becker forum. I chose my words poorly, i should have said "alternate name" instead of multi, like mine.

I knew what you meant. Like I said before, I'm NotSpiderBread. I don't know why you have me confused with someone else.

[DunnoBro]

I couldn't possibly be Dina. As you can plainly see, I'm responding directly to your statement. That should be proof enough.

Well you got me there.



Also no, I'm not suggesting alts on the becker forum. I chose my words poorly, i should have said "alternate name" instead of multi, like mine.

I knew what you meant. Like I said before, I'm NotSpiderBread. I don't know why you have me confused with someone else.

That latter part wasn't in response to you but the people confused by what I said. Trying to work around the quote limit messed up my post :G Sorry.



And dang, I'm a pretty big fan of that goy.

[MechaGS]

xD That image is epic just saying.

The source of where the image is propagated is even more fun:

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I know MechaGS will laugh at it. I know I did.

I laughed the second I got in here, love it man.



There's now two new mods on the official forums, so I guess we'll see how that works out. There's also a new forum for showcasing art and media so it looks like a few things are changing now.

[Bolowors]

About the mass denied refunds. Anyone thinking about going to the court? Or this is pointless?

[MechaGS]

About the mass denied refunds. Anyone thinking about going to the court? Or this is pointless?

You'd have to do it in Japan most likely (Comcept have a US business outlet but I don't think they handle money) where they hold jurisdiction. You're also likely not to win due to the nature of the funding considering that refunds under Kickstarter's rules are only given on project cancellation.



I think you'd be setting yourself up for being hit with more lawyer's and court fees than what you'd get back in the end.

[Bolowors]

About the mass denied refunds. Anyone thinking about going to the court? Or this is pointless?

You'd have to do it in Japan most likely (Comcept have a US business outlet but I don't think they handle money) where they hold jurisdiction. You're also likely not to win due to the nature of the funding considering that refunds under Kickstarter's rules are only given on project cancellation.



I think you'd be setting yourself up for being hit with more lawyer's and court fees than what you'd get back in the end.

I see... But if we gather all the people who wanted to get a refund, and do a class action, this would be viable no?



EDIT: Nevermind, now that i re-read what i said, this is nonsense.

[Renzokuken]

Before a case is even looked at by the court, they'd want to know that you'd done everything possible to retrieve the funds yourself. Considering you can ask your bank to perform a charge back, the case wouldn't even be looked at until that'd failed.

[Bolowors]

Before a case is even looked at by the court, they'd want to know that you'd done everything possible to retrieve the funds yourself. Considering you can ask your bank to perform a charge back, the case wouldn't even be looked at until that'd failed.

Yeah. You're right, and i don't know if we have sufficient people willing to try this. But i think that is possible to find a lawer in Japan to lead this case, but someone need organise everybody and this person need to speak japanese. It's hard, probably the effort will not payback, and will only work like a protest. But can happen.

[TheCloudyEye]

If you still want to push the refund issue, you might want to contact Heredity, Char and Criscoknight. Heredity was the first one who proposed the idea of chargeback, but I haven't heard anything about them since their ban. Anyway, I think they are your best bet in pushing this issue.

[mightyno67277p]

About the mass denied refunds. Anyone thinking about going to the court? Or this is pointless?

Just chargeback, if you can. I think since it is the new year, it is impossible now. But ask your financial institution.



For court, it depends on your local laws. Get a counsel for advice. I know on most States 300 USD is the minimum for a felony, so if you paid more than that amount, sue.

[ThePrinceOfMoose]

About the mass denied refunds. Anyone thinking about going to the court? Or this is pointless?

Just chargeback, if you can. I think since it is the new year, it is impossible now. But ask your financial institution.



For court, it depends on your local laws. Get a counsel for advice. I know on most States 300 USD is the minimum for a felony, so if you paid more than that amount, sue.

We also have to take into account that the laws in Japan and the U.S or depending where you were where you pledged may clash.  I don't think it's completely impossible to ask for a chargeback especially if the overall product ends up being shit.  Contrary to what others may say how kickstarter is not an investment or it's a risk, someone is taking our hard earned money and using it to make something and that something better be good.  If it turns out bad, you bet your ass I will demand a refund or a chargeback and get all the evidence I can.  However when it comes to the community issue there is not much I can help with since it is not affecting the overall product.  Of course this is just me talking here, I am not going to say anyone is wrong for demanding refunds still for feeling wronged in anyway.

[Quattro Bajeena]

About the mass denied refunds. Anyone thinking about going to the court? Or this is pointless?

Just chargeback, if you can. I think since it is the new year, it is impossible now. But ask your financial institution.



For court, it depends on your local laws. Get a counsel for advice. I know on most States 300 USD is the minimum for a felony, so if you paid more than that amount, sue.

We also have to take into account that the laws in Japan and the U.S or depending where you were where you pledged may clash.  I don't think it's completely impossible to ask for a chargeback especially if the overall product ends up being shit.  Contrary to what others may say how kickstarter is not an investment or it's a risk, someone is taking our hard earned money and using it to make something and that something better be good.  If it turns out bad, you bet your ass I will demand a refund or a chargeback and get all the evidence I can.  However when it comes to the community issue there is not much I can help with since it is not affecting the overall product.  Of course this is just me talking here, I am not going to say anyone is wrong for demanding refunds still for feeling wronged in anyway.

the problem is moose it's poisoning the community, and this divide will never disappear because of it.



on a side note welcome