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Started by BSO, January 18, 2014, 10:04:13 PM

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Forte

#15
Quote from: BSOIt's a mystery to me, but I know that a number of banned users have migrated to this site. I also know that there are people that have a tendency to dislike moderators on principle, since some people see it only as a job meant for the purpose of censorship and such.



Well, a number of banned users wouldn't have had to migrate here at all if, you know, we hadn't been banned on meaningless grounds. You weren't a moderator when the majority of banned users who are here were banned, so you're not at fault, and even if you had been, I'm sure that a moderator's impact on bans there is very little, though I am curious just how much you people know. Depending on how many people there are with Dina's level of power, as well as her level of self control, they're the only people to blame in this situation.



As for being a moderator having no purpose but censorship, that's uninformed, I certainly hope no one here has fallen into such a poor mindset. Moderation or leadership in general is only censorship when the person with the job is inherently inclined to censorship, which in my opinion makes them a terrible human being. Your being here, however, is a show of good faith on your part, and I feel that you're a trustworthy individual.



I'll be back on the official forums on Monday, unless they conveniently forget to undo my ban. If there's anything you'd like to tell me regarding "how much you people know", PM me knowing that it'll be a secret kept to me.

NotSpiderBread

#16
Quote from: BSO
Quote from: NotSpiderBreadI appreciate that. Hopefully they will actually listen.



The only thing I asked for was simple information and not to be insulted by a vague "Dear User, thank you for your request, unfortunately..." response. Which is exactly what I got lol.I even mentioned it in one of the emails that I sent too.



Also, I don't plan on coming back to those forums even after my ban expires. If I do it will be for rare occasions, maybe another vote or something. I might make one post when the ban expires addressing all of this, but other than that, I've made my peace with the situation.



Yeah, I figured. Not sure what the deal is, but I've been hearing that they're taking issues of sharing information really seriously. I'm guessing it's a cultural thing, because I've never seen any other site want to keep so much private.



That's too bad to hear, but I understand if you don't. Think you might reconsider if the situation looks like it's improved enough?



Doubtful, if I go back with optimism and get burned again I'll only have myself to blame. Maybe if dialog was set up between myself and someone that could provide me with answers I'd be more willing but I highly doubt that will ever happen.

MechaGS

#17
Quote from: BSO
Quote from: ThePrinceOfMooseHey man, everyone is welcome here.  No need to feel afraid.  It's cool.  In fact it's good to see you here BSO.



I wouldn't say afraid, but I don't want people to think I'm here to intrude. It's not in my interests to cause problems.

You're a backer; so just enjoy yourself on here and don't worry about all of the extra fluff. :beckveryhappy



Everyone's welcome here. That's MN9U's open-door policy and so far it's worked out pretty well.

BSO

#18
Quote from: ForteWell, a number of banned users wouldn't have had to migrate here at all if, you know, we hadn't been banned on meaningless grounds. You weren't a moderator when the majority of banned users who are here were banned, so you're not at fault, and even if you had been, I'm sure that a moderator's impact on bans there is very little, though I am curious just how much you people know. Depending on how many people there are with Dina's level of power, as well as her level of self control, they're the only people to blame in this situation.



As for being a moderator having no purpose but censorship, that's uninformed, I certainly hope no one here has fallen into such a poor mindset. Moderation or leadership in general is only censorship when the person with the job is inherently inclined to censorship, which in my opinion makes them a terrible human being. Your being here, however, is a show of good faith on your part, and I feel that you're a trustworthy individual.



I'll be back on the official forums on Monday, unless they conveniently forget to undo my ban. If there's anything you'd like to tell me regarding "how much you people know", PM me knowing that it'll be a secret kept to me.



I've stated before on the forums that I don't agree with everything that's been done. That includes the ban you received. I can't say that I'm able to see all the details of what happened though. You are right however that those choices aren't left up to me in the end, even now that I am a mod. Unfortunately, I can't change what's already been done, I can only attempt to move how things are handled in a direction that doesn't allow for problems like what we've already seen.



Appreciated, I thought it might not be a bad idea to attempt to communicate with people in a forum they might feel more comfortable in for whatever reason.



I don't expect there will be any problems, although I don't know if the bans are on an automatic timer, so it might be 30 days +/- a few hours or so. If it starts to take too long (a few days), send us an e-mail over at the mods address that was set up, and I'll see what I can do.



It also occurs to me that just using my old avatar image doesn't prove that I am who I say I am. Here's something that will work better for that.

BSO

#19
Quote from: NotSpiderBreadDoubtful, if I go back with optimism and get burned again I'll only have myself to blame. Maybe if dialog was set up between myself and someone that could provide me with answers I'd be more willing but I highly doubt that will ever happen.



Then I guess I'll have to do what I can. My goal is the same as it was when I started posting suggestions in the forums, to try and help the project as a whole. Part of that is trying to get as many people as we can to contribute their thoughts and ideas to it.

NotSpiderBread

#20
Quote from: BSO
Quote from: NotSpiderBreadDoubtful, if I go back with optimism and get burned again I'll only have myself to blame. Maybe if dialog was set up between myself and someone that could provide me with answers I'd be more willing but I highly doubt that will ever happen.



Then I guess I'll have to do what I can. My goal is the same as it was when I started posting suggestions in the forums, to try and help the project as a whole. Part of that is trying to get as many people as we can to contribute their thoughts and ideas to it.



Do what you can. I understand you're in between a rock and a hard place so-to-speak being not only a mod but a backer as well. Hopefully you can help implement some well needed change.

BSO

#21
Quote from: NotSpiderBreadDo what you can. I understand you're in between a rock and a hard place so-to-speak being not only a mod but a backer as well. Hopefully you can help implement some well needed change.



Hopefully.

NotSpiderBread

#22
Quote from: BSO
Quote from: NotSpiderBreadDo what you can. I understand you're in between a rock and a hard place so-to-speak being not only a mod but a backer as well. Hopefully you can help implement some well needed change.



Hopefully.



Hopefully....Rides Alone.






I have confidence you can get things done.

ThePrinceOfMoose

#23
Quote from: BSO
Quote from: ThePrinceOfMooseHey man, everyone is welcome here.  No need to feel afraid.  It's cool.  In fact it's good to see you here BSO.



I wouldn't say afraid, but I don't want people to think I'm here to intrude. It's not in my interests to cause problems. Good to see you as well. Take it you haven't been feeling up to using the official forums lately?



The official forums have been rather slow as of late.  So I have been either there or Kickstarter comments.  Though I have not been on the kickstarter comments much as of late either.  I usually go back and forth though.  I do make it apparent to see if the others are doing well.

TheRaven

Hey BSO great to see you here! Like everyone said, anyone and everyone is welcome here. (Well unless you're a spambot... :V) If things were to get out of hand me, along with the rest of the staff would definitely put a stop to it. (Though everyone here are pretty nice so I don't see that happening but if it was to we'd handle it ASAP.) Welcome to MN9U. ^_^

BSO

Appreciate all the welcomes, I'll think I'll continue to come around for now. I'm heading out for tonight though, going to play some Senran Kagura then head to bed. Got an early day tomorrow.

Quattro Bajeena

glad you're giving this a chance, hopefully we can mend this tear in the community

Ryusei


TheCloudyEye

Glad to have you on board BSO. Hope you will drop by more often.

BSO

#29
Quote from: TheCloudyEyeGlad to have you on board BSO. Hope you will drop by more often.



Might not be too regularly, but I think I will from time to time.